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    There's a big water/sewer construction project starting soon here and we have a Trimble GeoXH to locate the features as they are being placed into the ground.

    To help the workload, we are going to have a crew (possibly the Inspectors) carry tablets or laptops around to input the attributes into an Excel/Access spreadsheet possibly? Or ArcMap maybe..., about each feature.

    This is to ensure the GPS guy has time to 'locate' the features and move on, while giving the other guys time to actually input information about the features into the database.

    What do you recommend as far as tablets/laptops to carry in the field? We've been looking at Toshiba and Dell netbooks so far. We need something with good battery life, rugged durability, and good performance/reliability.

    Trimble Yuma's are out of the budget.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gvma09 View Post
    There's a big water/sewer construction project starting soon here and we have a Trimble GeoXH to locate the features as they are being placed into the ground.

    To help the workload, we are going to have a crew (possibly the Inspectors) carry tablets or laptops around to input the attributes into an Excel/Access spreadsheet possibly? Or ArcMap maybe..., about each feature.

    This is to ensure the GPS guy has time to 'locate' the features and move on, while giving the other guys time to actually input information about the features into the database.

    What do you recommend as far as tablets/laptops to carry in the field? We've been looking at Toshiba and Dell netbooks so far. We need something with good battery life, rugged durability, and good performance/reliability.

    Trimble Yuma's are out of the budget.
    We have a bunch of Trimble Recons that are pretty weak system resource wise. I recently purchased two Motion CL900 tablets for around $1,100 each. They will be used with a ProXH via bluetooth, but I am going to have a hard line option (USB/Serial emulator) just in case. Full Windows Pro (upgrade) and apparently mountable to a pole 1 1/2 inches or less in diameter. I am going to begin testing these in the next week or two and I will post my results here or in the ArcPad section, but the specs for the standard model as follows (as well as the link to the model):

    1.5 GHz Atom Processor
    1 GB RAM
    30 GB SSD Hard Drive
    Windows 7 Premium
    10" display Gorilla Glass
    SD Slot

    Probably not as rugged obviously as a Yuma, but better than some of the others like a Slate. This should easily work for your needs.

    http://www.motioncomputing.com/produ...t_pc_CL900.asp

    Base cost (MSRP) - $1,000

    Hope this helps you as another option.

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    Dear Steven,

    We are currently thinking of acquiring a Motion CL900 tablet with a Trimble GPS receiver for doing mobile GIS in the field. The Motion J3500 would be an alternative.
    What are your experiences with this device ? Does ArcMap run smoothly or will it be better to use ArcExplorer or ArcGIS Mobile?
    What other software do you use to communicate with the Trimble GPS? Can you use the internal GPS of the CL900 also if you don't have the Trimble with you and what is its precision?

    Thank you
    Robert

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    I've been using a CL900 with a custom aplication and it seems like a good alternative to our convertable HEAVY rugged tablet/notebooks.. The Windows 7 and Motoin addons make the lack of keyboard barly noticable..

    An employee here drove over the edge of the CL900 and it still works.. mind you we had to get the cracked display replaced..

    In terms of the GPS it is better than some of the cheeper ones I"ve come accros but not for accuracy but abliity for a position off a cold start or a lost start(ie come out of a big building). from my experince all enteyt level gps are about 5m accurite... but you can expect spikes in the order of 10-20m...

    One recomendation is to turn off all display enhancements for a good performance boost.. and I've also noticed on another forum that if you turn up tyhe power profile of the video to max you will get imporved graphic perfomance as oppopsed ot jerky movements between screens and alike..

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    Dear Graham,

    By 'Custom Application', do you mean an application based on ArcMap?. I just want to be sure that ArcMap run properly before buying the CL900.
    Di you ever try ArcExplorer Desktop version or other esri products?

    Robert

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    Quote Originally Posted by colbachr View Post
    Dear Steven,

    We are currently thinking of acquiring a Motion CL900 tablet with a Trimble GPS receiver for doing mobile GIS in the field. The Motion J3500 would be an alternative.
    What are your experiences with this device ? Does ArcMap run smoothly or will it be better to use ArcExplorer or ArcGIS Mobile?
    What other software do you use to communicate with the Trimble GPS? Can you use the internal GPS of the CL900 also if you don't have the Trimble with you and what is its precision?

    Thank you
    Robert
    Hello Robert.

    We are currently running ArcPad on our CL900s. There is some interest in having an ArcGIS Mobile application at some point in the future. I have not tested ArcMap on this tablet, but I imagine it doesn't run that great. We use GPScorrect along with our Trimble ProXH receivers which give subfoot accuracy when post-processed. Ours do not have built-in broadband GPS as we do not have a need for it, but like someone else said, the accuracy is at best 5 meters with lots of spikes from what I have read. I guess the configuration you need will be determined on how you will use it. For us, we run Recons and ProXHs. Seemed logical to keep the a two piece system so we can use whatever configuration we want. I also think it depends on how important GPS is to you. If you want to use this tablet for attribution and other things, it works great. I looked at a lot of tablets to ascertain what would be best for our collection needs while keeping costs down. This was the best fit for us and a viable replacement for our Recons in the near future. Let me know if you have any other questions.

    Steve
    Last edited by srehbaum; 11-14-2011 at 06:03 AM.

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    Robert,

    A custom application is one that has been developed specificly for us using windows forms and a thinkgeo map. and the performance is very acceptable but not amazing!

    the big wins over old tablets is the capacitive screen(Ipad style multi touch) paired up with the ntrig digitiser..

    Regards,

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    Has anyone had issues with the Trimble YUMA being extremely slow with ArcPAD 10?
    I would not recommend the Yuma, so far they have been very very slow.

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    All,

    We have just been down this route for in field tablets. We have settled on the Motion F5 as the desired platform. However it comes downn to what you are going to be doing. The CL900 is a great tablet, it comes with 3G and gps, has pen or touch control but it is an atom processor, so it will not run ArcMap at the speed you would expect on your desktop. We are actually seeing deployments of ArcGIS Mobile and ArcPad on these devices. This are lighter weight apps and require less processing power.

    Both the Motion F5 and J3500 come in i3, 5 and 7. They are both very good field systems and have 3G and gps. In fact the J3500 I tested was faster than my desktop. The J3500 is bulky and requires a shoulder strap but if screen real estate is important then this is a good option. Th F5 has a smaller screen, is lighter, is a handbag style and is pen only input. It has the best out door display as there is no touch layer. What I found very good is the windows 7 writing recognition. http://www.apctechnology.com.au/bm.d...210-tablet.pdf 20 min of training I had it recognizing my worst hand writing. So much so I don't use the on screen keyboard, input is slower than writing with a pen.

    Our main goal for these devices is ArcGIS Mobile so we chose the i3. that gives us more than enough performance. ArMap may require a slightly higher processor.

    There are other slates out there, Samsung, Acer, Fujitsu and Asus but they are not as strong as required for field use.

    HTH

    cheers
    Gordon
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    Hi Steve,

    The specs on the CL900 look good. Is the screen sunlight readable ?

    Thanks,

    - Miguel

    Quote Originally Posted by srehbaum View Post
    Hello Robert.

    We are currently running ArcPad on our CL900s. There is some interest in having an ArcGIS Mobile application at some point in the future. I have not tested ArcMap on this tablet, but I imagine it doesn't run that great. We use GPScorrect along with our Trimble ProXH receivers which give subfoot accuracy when post-processed. Ours do not have built-in broadband GPS as we do not have a need for it, but like someone else said, the accuracy is at best 5 meters with lots of spikes from what I have read. I guess the configuration you need will be determined on how you will use it. For us, we run Recons and ProXHs. Seemed logical to keep the a two piece system so we can use whatever configuration we want. I also think it depends on how important GPS is to you. If you want to use this tablet for attribution and other things, it works great. I looked at a lot of tablets to ascertain what would be best for our collection needs while keeping costs down. This was the best fit for us and a viable replacement for our Recons in the near future. Let me know if you have any other questions.

    Steve
    Last edited by AltamonteGIS; 01-20-2012 at 01:39 PM.

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    Miguel,
    Check out RuggedPc's review. Looks like it passed their sunlight test.

    http://ruggedpcreview.com/3_slates_m...l900_full.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by AltamonteGIS View Post
    Hi Steve,

    The specs on the CL900 look good. Is the screen sunlight readable ?

    Thanks,

    - Miguel
    I would say it is okay as is. We have left the forms the generic gray color so the contrast probably is not as good as it could be. We will have to work with it a little more. Mike's link to the CL900 review is interesting. I think we still need to tinker some more with our setup. I will report our experience with it as we begin to use it it regularly in the field.

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    We have started testing our Motion CL900 with a ProXH receiver. The usb to serial adaptor has worked flawlessly for wired connection. Bluetooth will probably not be used at all. It is so nice to have so much screen real estate to work with. My forms are now 260x260 with 18 pt. font labels and dropdowns making visibility exceptional. I also tweaked the brightness on the tablet to max and glare is not really an issue. I am doing some training in a couple of weeks with a new group of users. This will be the first time the units are being used for real collection rather than testing and a couple minor collections. I will report back with those results as the work progresses.

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    Checking in:

    Used the CL900 tablets for collection over the last 4 days and they worked great with ArcPad. As I previously posted, I set all the forms to 260x260 and the font to 18 pt. This form is HUGE compared to the small forms of a Recon for example. Very happy overall and the battery on the tablet seems to go a full day (8 hours+). Glare very minimal even in the Florida sun. After field use, I would recommend them for GPS collection and Motion tablets overall for other field collections.

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    Why not try the Panasonic rugged tough books as they have special features as well as more features as compare with the normal laptops and tablets which can be viewed through roaming tech Panasonic toughbooks.

    Even there are more advanced up coming in future like they will be charge through solar power with more light in weight, this help to use them in easy way with power last up to 10 to 15 hours, thus saving environment also.

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    I work with Water District's that use both the Panasonic Toughbooks and the Motion tablets. In my opinion, everyone seem to prefer the Motion tablets to the Toughbooks. The motion tablets are lighter weight, easier to handle, and have nicer screens.

    Regards
    Bruce

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